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where tamerlan goes for six months. he flies to moscow. but then, according to his father, he visits chechnya and dagestan. now, who did he visit in chechnya? who did he visit in dagestan? does it have any relationship to these unspecified underground groups that the russians referred to in their original request to the fbi? third, you come back to the united states. by this point he clearly seems to be thoroughly radicalized. he sets up that youtube account filled with jihadjihadi videos. we have reports from radical tendencies even from people within his own mosque. who was he in contact with in the boston area? i think those are the biggest questions now facing investigators and people looking at how the fbi handled this case. >> michael isikoff, i got to leave it there. you're right. we got to figure out did the kgb not tell our guys or russian intelligence not tell our guys everything that they knew at the time? and will they tell us now? anyway, michael, thank you very much. >>> gaggle will be here next. running a little bit late. fi
where tamerlan goes for six months. he flies to moscow. but then, according to his father, he visits chechnya and dagestan. now, who did he visit in chechnya? who did he visit in dagestan? does it have any relationship to these unspecified underground groups that the russians referred to in their original request to the fbi? third, you come back to the united states. by this point he clearly seems to be thoroughly radicalized. he sets up that youtube account filled with jihadjihadi videos. we...
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. >> reporter: as for what drove tamerlan? his younger brother claims it was hatred of america. >> he may have been angry about other things, about the status of his life. but he increasingly turned to jihadism, was radicalized, because among other things, u.s. foreign policy decisions overseas and that especially afghanistan and iraq. >> reporter: what the younger brother is reported to be saying is consistent with what we heard in the neighborhood about the older brother tamerlan and his disgust with things american and christian. >> he said the bike is a cheap copy off the koran. he said most american wars are excused off the bible. >> reporter: and it also emerged there might be a link to an unsolved murder two years ago. prosecutors said monday that they are investigating whether tamerlan was involved in the brutal murder of three young men, one of whom was his roommate. the three were found with their throats slashed, covered in marijuana and cash. federal agents have been looking at the six-month trip tamerlan took last
. >> reporter: as for what drove tamerlan? his younger brother claims it was hatred of america. >> he may have been angry about other things, about the status of his life. but he increasingly turned to jihadism, was radicalized, because among other things, u.s. foreign policy decisions overseas and that especially afghanistan and iraq. >> reporter: what the younger brother is reported to be saying is consistent with what we heard in the neighborhood about the older brother...
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raised christian, went to college in boston, met tamerlan. she converted to islam, and by all accounts, fairly devout, wore the hajaab, the traditional head scarf. she didn't speak russian, so she wasn't always aware what was being said, she didn't understand the language being spoken around the house. wolf. >> chris lawrence reporting for us. just ahead, still many unanswered questions in the boston marathon terror attack. investigators work to interview the only suspect still alive. new insights into the investigation. stay with our special coverage. ♪ [ male announcer ] a car that can actually see like a human, using stereoscopic cameras. ♪ and even stop itself if it has to. ♪ the technology may be hard to imagine. but why you would want it... is not. the 2014 e-class. it doesn't just see the future. it is the future. [ sneezing ] she may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec®. powerful allergy relief for adults and kids six years and older. zyrtec®. love the air. >>> there are hundreds of questions that investigators have for
raised christian, went to college in boston, met tamerlan. she converted to islam, and by all accounts, fairly devout, wore the hajaab, the traditional head scarf. she didn't speak russian, so she wasn't always aware what was being said, she didn't understand the language being spoken around the house. wolf. >> chris lawrence reporting for us. just ahead, still many unanswered questions in the boston marathon terror attack. investigators work to interview the only suspect still alive. new...
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you were a boxer and roomed with tamerlan during tournament. what was he like? >> well, during that trip, i noticed tamerlan was a bit after flashy guy. sharp dresser. confident in his abilities as a boxer. >> he was good boxer? >> he was. he had some skills. he had some punching power. good hand speed. he won a couple fights in lowell. he lost in nationals. but to make it to nationals, is a good accomplishment. >> he ended up quitting boxing and i believe that you are under the understanding, because he couldn't represent the united states. is that right? >> for some reason in the second tournament, golden gloves, we couldn't travel with the team. i thought it was because he couldn't represent the united states, but i can't say for sure. >> did he ever talk to you about religion or politics? >> he was definitely big -- the second year i met him, he talked a lot about his faith. just seemed to really be more about what he was about, his character. he spoke to his faith to me many times. the times i saw hum the second time around. he also talked about his wife --
you were a boxer and roomed with tamerlan during tournament. what was he like? >> well, during that trip, i noticed tamerlan was a bit after flashy guy. sharp dresser. confident in his abilities as a boxer. >> he was good boxer? >> he was. he had some skills. he had some punching power. good hand speed. he won a couple fights in lowell. he lost in nationals. but to make it to nationals, is a good accomplishment. >> he ended up quitting boxing and i believe that you are...
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who is the wife of tamerlan tsarnaev? and later, how easy was it to make the bombs that killed three and injured dozens more? an "outfront" investigation on that and whether it's possible to stop another one. woman: everyone in the nicu -- all the nurses wanted to watch him when he was there 118 days. everything that you thought was important to you changes in light of having a child that needs you every moment. i wouldn't trade him for the world. who matters most to you says the most about you. at massmutual we're owned by our policyowners, and they matter most to us. if you're caring for a child with special needs, our innovative special care program offers strategies that can help. try running four.ning a restaurant is hard, fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our business. this is the only thing we've ever wanted to do and ink helps us do it. make your mark with ink from chase. hwelcome back.. nice
who is the wife of tamerlan tsarnaev? and later, how easy was it to make the bombs that killed three and injured dozens more? an "outfront" investigation on that and whether it's possible to stop another one. woman: everyone in the nicu -- all the nurses wanted to watch him when he was there 118 days. everything that you thought was important to you changes in light of having a child that needs you every moment. i wouldn't trade him for the world. who matters most to you says the most...
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none of this means that tamerlan tsarnaev met abu. why was he posting that video from a town where his father lived where he visited in 2012? something investigators may be looking at with regard to what history there may have been with extremism from that alleged bomber. >> reporter: so, nick, let's talk about his time in russia. what do you know about that? >> reporter: a limited amount. there is a window between 2002, 2006 when he could have been here or coming and going from the united states and kaziksta in. . we know from talking to a shop keeper that i have wills opposite his father, that he went to stay with his father for a month. we don't know what he was doing really for the rest of the time while he was there. he has relatives in chechnya, many other things that could possibly have happened. that surely must be what investigators are looking at given some of the suggestions of radicalization that krcrept in the past few years. >> reporter: at this point, with he don't know why these two brothers decided to carry out this b
none of this means that tamerlan tsarnaev met abu. why was he posting that video from a town where his father lived where he visited in 2012? something investigators may be looking at with regard to what history there may have been with extremism from that alleged bomber. >> reporter: so, nick, let's talk about his time in russia. what do you know about that? >> reporter: a limited amount. there is a window between 2002, 2006 when he could have been here or coming and going from the...
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with tamerlan tsarnaev who died on friday night. boston seven days after the attack. but we begin with chief washington correspondent james rosen and stunning news of another planned attack of terror. good evening, james. >> bret, good evening. canadian officials announced today they arrested two men this afternoon and charged them with plotting with the aid of al qaeda to blow up a passenger train traveling from new york to the greater torrent area. the alleged terrorist are age 30 and are raheed of toronto. they worked with canadian intelligence and u.s. national security and law enforcement officers to interrupt this alleged plot in an 8 month investigation code named project smooth. they said the plot was detected early on and neither american nor canadian citizens faced any imminent threat as a result. u.s. officials told fox news the defendants' objective was to blow up a bridge in the tore torrent area tornted while the plane was traveling over it mounted police told reporters today that they took steps to advance the plot including allegedly conducting own sur
with tamerlan tsarnaev who died on friday night. boston seven days after the attack. but we begin with chief washington correspondent james rosen and stunning news of another planned attack of terror. good evening, james. >> bret, good evening. canadian officials announced today they arrested two men this afternoon and charged them with plotting with the aid of al qaeda to blow up a passenger train traveling from new york to the greater torrent area. the alleged terrorist are age 30 and...
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and this guy tamerlan. >> of course, i also read someplace that tamerlan didn't go to his funeral or to his wake. >> i was just going to say that. >> which was suspicious to some. >> and some say that means he didn't do it because if he did do it, then he would go to the wake to make it look like no one think he didn't do it. but i think for him not to go at all to the funeral or the wake suggests that there was something personal going on to me anyway. >> the thing that's curious to me, i don't know how one person, one man could kill three other men slit their throats. i could see him in busting in and shooting them but slitting their throats would take time. >> i agree with you there. but if you have a gun, and these were not street guys. these were kind of perpetual college students, pothead kind of guys. and i don't think -- it would have been a little tougher to do that in brooklyn than walltown. if you have a gun, you can get people to do remarkable things. the one guy, brendan mess, was a big martial arts guy, but still with a gun. and we know that tamerlan was able to get a h
and this guy tamerlan. >> of course, i also read someplace that tamerlan didn't go to his funeral or to his wake. >> i was just going to say that. >> which was suspicious to some. >> and some say that means he didn't do it because if he did do it, then he would go to the wake to make it look like no one think he didn't do it. but i think for him not to go at all to the funeral or the wake suggests that there was something personal going on to me anyway. >> the...
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tamerlan taught everything to himself. we were happy about it because he didn't start doing drugs or alcohol. now he doesn't speak to other women he is not related to. they're not important to him because it's a sin to even look them in the eye. she saw him for four of the six months he was here, and he went to chechnya twice. >> translator: yes, he went to chechnya for a couple of days. i don't know where his relative there's lived. they were from his father's side. i do know that village was bombed in the second war, though. >> reporter: as pictures of boston played out around the world, she reveals that the mother rang the boys to check if they were well. but later that week they rang her again, allegedly when they were on the run, just the day before tamerlan died. the day before, she said they spoke, and it was like always, mommy, everything is fine with us. mommy, we're totally fine. mommy, that's what they call her. >> translator: we miss your warmth and caress, they said. tamerlan said "mommy, i love you clothe. an
tamerlan taught everything to himself. we were happy about it because he didn't start doing drugs or alcohol. now he doesn't speak to other women he is not related to. they're not important to him because it's a sin to even look them in the eye. she saw him for four of the six months he was here, and he went to chechnya twice. >> translator: yes, he went to chechnya for a couple of days. i don't know where his relative there's lived. they were from his father's side. i do know that...
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claire, this guy, the older brother, tamerlan, drove a mercedes, he dressed well. looks like he was into money, but he was unemployed. should we be following the money trail and what could that tell us? >> yes, absolutely, governor. the financial trail is going to be very important in this case, especially as tamerlan, of course, is now dead and his younger brother unable to talk for the moment. the financial trail can started to be followed right away. as you say, the older brother in particular dressed in nice sports clothes, had expensive shoes, drove a mercedes. in particular we know that last year, 2012, between january and june, he traveled over to the cacausus region. during those six months, who was supporting his wife and small child at home? who was supporting him? there's no record of him holding a job when he came back. his younger brother didn't have a public record of holding a job, although we know he was a student. just like after 9/11 took us to the wealthy donors in the persian gulf area, saudi arabian and other gulf donors, and foundations like b
claire, this guy, the older brother, tamerlan, drove a mercedes, he dressed well. looks like he was into money, but he was unemployed. should we be following the money trail and what could that tell us? >> yes, absolutely, governor. the financial trail is going to be very important in this case, especially as tamerlan, of course, is now dead and his younger brother unable to talk for the moment. the financial trail can started to be followed right away. as you say, the older brother in...
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what is the conference going on right now about tamerlan? >> i think what people in the congregation feel is that he was really reacting to the modern american islam that's projected inside of our congregation, so inside of that second incident, you know, inside of that second incident, you know, after he stood up, after our, you know, preacher compared martin luther king, you know, to the prophet muhammad, and he stood up, he called our preacher a hypocrite, so then the people of the congregation shouted him out to leave. so i think the conversation in our congregation is that, you know he just didn't fit, in terms of kind of the idea allege, the mainstream moderate ideology that our mosque projects. >> there have been reports that his family wants him to be buried in the united states and is trying to find a way to bury him, to have a proper burial service for him, and i don't know whether the body has been released yet. do you know whats latest is on that? >> yeah, there were some reports out there that we had rejected his burial, or the
what is the conference going on right now about tamerlan? >> i think what people in the congregation feel is that he was really reacting to the modern american islam that's projected inside of our congregation, so inside of that second incident, you know, inside of that second incident, you know, after he stood up, after our, you know, preacher compared martin luther king, you know, to the prophet muhammad, and he stood up, he called our preacher a hypocrite, so then the people of the...
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>> one person we haven't heard much from is tamerlan's wife. what sort of picture do we get of her and what potential information could she provide? >> well, of course, a key potential witness. immediate family members help paint that 360-degree profile of what happened from the time of the event backwards. here's a big however to consider, though. okay? not saying this is associated with the old al qaeda, but like-minded groups tend to pull good tactics off the shelf. in the case of the old al qaeda under bin laden, they were the masters of compartmentalization. we might not be surprised if he kept that information, if not all information, from his wife. now, there's a possibility that she may in some ways have been wh whitting. if he had that type of training, they're very good at the need to know. >> but this is an individual he had a relatively long relationship with. and you're suggesting that he might have been able to hide everything from her? any of his inclinations of hatred toward america if he had that feeling toward america? he woul
>> one person we haven't heard much from is tamerlan's wife. what sort of picture do we get of her and what potential information could she provide? >> well, of course, a key potential witness. immediate family members help paint that 360-degree profile of what happened from the time of the event backwards. here's a big however to consider, though. okay? not saying this is associated with the old al qaeda, but like-minded groups tend to pull good tactics off the shelf. in the case...
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dzhokhar, not surprisingly is saying he was following his older brother tamerlan and tamerlan was the one who was the driving force behind this. in addition, there's an indication from the interviews that the brothers were self radicalized on-line. they were getting information from videos on-line, you tube videos on-line but not from communication or e-mail the way the ft. hood shooter was but they were very much self starters, self radicalized. the older brother, it seems from preliminary investigation, to have been motivated by jihad, traditional jihad motivation and political implications that they are under attack and jihad dis need to fight back. this is from preliminary interviews with this individual, with dzhokhar tsarnaev. >> the interviews have been limited. >> very limited. everything needs to be checked out. the investigators will follow up. these are individuals who knew a lot of people and had a lot of connections. they weren't shut ins on their own. they were people who knew a lot of people. everything needs to be followed up on. this is what dzhokhar tsarnaev is sayin
dzhokhar, not surprisingly is saying he was following his older brother tamerlan and tamerlan was the one who was the driving force behind this. in addition, there's an indication from the interviews that the brothers were self radicalized on-line. they were getting information from videos on-line, you tube videos on-line but not from communication or e-mail the way the ft. hood shooter was but they were very much self starters, self radicalized. the older brother, it seems from preliminary...
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well, she is tamerlan tsarnaev's wife, now widow. federal authorities want to question her about her husband and brother-in-law. did katheryn russell tsarnaev have any clue about the bomb plot? wpri tv reports live in north kingston, rhode island with the latest. what can you tell me about his wife, and where is she? >> well, at this point it looks like she's actually here in north kings town at her family home right now. there's really not much i can tell you about katheryn except what her lawyer is telling us right now and what neighbors are telling us. neighbors have been is what is leading the whole investigation to finding out who katheryn is. we know she went to high school in rhode island. she's a rhode island native. she's been living here her whole life. the last few months or maybe the last year, all the neighbors are saying she's changed a little bit. in high school her friends say that she was outgoing, she was in the art club, wanted to be in the peace corps. then one neighbor said the last year she hasn't seen her too m
well, she is tamerlan tsarnaev's wife, now widow. federal authorities want to question her about her husband and brother-in-law. did katheryn russell tsarnaev have any clue about the bomb plot? wpri tv reports live in north kingston, rhode island with the latest. what can you tell me about his wife, and where is she? >> well, at this point it looks like she's actually here in north kings town at her family home right now. there's really not much i can tell you about katheryn except what...
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maybe tamerlan said i'm going to go bomb the marathon, can you watch my child? >> you know, who knows who was watching the child at this point. i'm not sure if the child was duly at this north kings townhome or was up in cambridge where i know they also had an apartment. the lawyer says that they actually lived here the vast majority of the time and also at this north kings townhome i'm told the younger brother, dzhokhar, he would also come on the weekends and spend a lot of time here in speaker when he wasn't as school. >> steve, thank you. coming up, do you know what your neighbors are up to? the man living right underneath an accused bomber tells us what he knows about him. he joins us next. also is the threat really over or were the accused boppers linked to foreign terrorists? groups gunning for the u.s. groups gunning for the u.s. we will talk about that next. she knows you like no one else. and you wouldn't have it any other way. but your erectile dysfunction - you know, that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be r
maybe tamerlan said i'm going to go bomb the marathon, can you watch my child? >> you know, who knows who was watching the child at this point. i'm not sure if the child was duly at this north kings townhome or was up in cambridge where i know they also had an apartment. the lawyer says that they actually lived here the vast majority of the time and also at this north kings townhome i'm told the younger brother, dzhokhar, he would also come on the weekends and spend a lot of time here in...
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the board member tells us that tamerlan tsarnaev did come back to the mosque after that. he was often there for dawn prayers between 5:00 and 5:15 a.m. usually on fridays. when i asked about the younger brother, dzhokhar tsarnaev coming to the mosque, this board member says yes, he did, usually not alone. always with his brother. anderson. >> did they shed any light on, you know, questions about radicalization about where he may have -- or when he may have become more radicalized? >> you know, we didn't get quite that far. i'm meeting with some people at the mosque later today and we hope to drill down on that. the uncle has said that there was some other person that may have swayed the older brother toward more radicalization. this is a little bit sketchy information at this point on who or what might have done that. and we're trying to put the pieces together with information regarding that and of course regarding his trip back to dagestan in 2012 when he spent six months there. and trying to piece together whether that may have had some influence on him and whether it
the board member tells us that tamerlan tsarnaev did come back to the mosque after that. he was often there for dawn prayers between 5:00 and 5:15 a.m. usually on fridays. when i asked about the younger brother, dzhokhar tsarnaev coming to the mosque, this board member says yes, he did, usually not alone. always with his brother. anderson. >> did they shed any light on, you know, questions about radicalization about where he may have -- or when he may have become more radicalized?...
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that's all. >> reporter: tamerlan's body has not been taken into custody. the parents say they would like to bring the body back with them to russia. >> shepard: trace gallagher, it's my understanding a local boston mosque wouldn't have a -- wouldn't have a funeral for him. is that true? >> we're checking that out. we heard those reports. it's not been confirmed but we heard that. the parents said they would like to take the body home and give it a proper muslim burial in the homeland. >> shepard: thank you. if this does make it to trial, the defense strategy is clear. all they want to do is avoid the death penalty. with us, rebecca rosewoodland live in the studio. it's my understanding this guy has a pretty good defense team. a high profile attorney about whom we have information. >> we have a lot of information. miriam conrad is the head of what we call the public defenders office. he said in his hospital bed, the one word he said was, no meaning i cannot afford an attorney. under our constitution we provide defendants with attorneys. we're providing him
that's all. >> reporter: tamerlan's body has not been taken into custody. the parents say they would like to bring the body back with them to russia. >> shepard: trace gallagher, it's my understanding a local boston mosque wouldn't have a -- wouldn't have a funeral for him. is that true? >> we're checking that out. we heard those reports. it's not been confirmed but we heard that. the parents said they would like to take the body home and give it a proper muslim burial in the...
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his uncle said he ended his relationship with tamerlan in 2009 because of the quote radical crap" tamerlan had begun to espouse. he was steered toward a strict strain of islam in recent years and he began opposing the wars in afghanistan and iraq which is i should note here not radical in and of itself but that he also turned to websites and literature claiming that the cia was behind the terrorist attacks of september 11, 2001, that jews controlled the world. there are two very specific accounts of tamerlan's recent behavior that are both fascinating and important in trying to understand how he might have become the kind of violent extremist he is accused of having been when he died after a shootout with authorities late last week. the first is recounted in "the wall street journal" this week. quote, in one incident late november tamerlan confronted a shop keeper in a middle eastern grocery store in cambridge near a mosque where he sometimes prayed after seeing a sign advertising thanksgiving turkeys. brother why did you put up the sign the shopkeeper recalled him asking angrily. it's not
his uncle said he ended his relationship with tamerlan in 2009 because of the quote radical crap" tamerlan had begun to espouse. he was steered toward a strict strain of islam in recent years and he began opposing the wars in afghanistan and iraq which is i should note here not radical in and of itself but that he also turned to websites and literature claiming that the cia was behind the terrorist attacks of september 11, 2001, that jews controlled the world. there are two very specific...
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tamerlan's wife? we know we've seen her, she's gone back to the cambridge house briefly to apparently get some mail and other things. she is believed to be with her parents in rhode island. are they interviewed her to know how much she knew about his radicalization? >> they will. they very much want to. they want to talk to every member of the family. they want it talk to all his friends. they want to know not just the answer to that question, but fill in as many pieces of the puzzle as they can. what were they up to in the months leading up to the bombing, what did they do afterwards, did they talk about plans? were they in touch with other people? the quick answer to your question is we don't believe they are have. her lawyer says he's in touch with the federal authorities now trying to work out details of that. they are going to get to her. they will interview her. she, she can be subpoenaed if necessary. so that, that will be done. >> and there are conflicting reports of extensive reporting and a
tamerlan's wife? we know we've seen her, she's gone back to the cambridge house briefly to apparently get some mail and other things. she is believed to be with her parents in rhode island. are they interviewed her to know how much she knew about his radicalization? >> they will. they very much want to. they want to talk to every member of the family. they want it talk to all his friends. they want to know not just the answer to that question, but fill in as many pieces of the puzzle as...
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she was incredibly close to tamerlan, the elder son. and of course distraught by learning and convinced of his death last night. >> thank you very much for the reporting on this. really baffling how someone could take an extreme term and behavior and those closest to him seem completely oblivious to it. another part of the mystery of this situation. again, thanks for that, thick. >>> back here in boston, the big question is, which way the investigation will go? there's still so much unanswered, so much information, that authorities are hoping are inside the mind of the suspect they have in the hospital, the more he can speak, the more they can learn. we'll take a look at what possible charges are and directions and choices that have to be made by federal prosecutors to make their case when we come back. ♪ (train horn) vo: wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. norfolk southern. one line, infinite possibilities. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and the streetsmart edge trading platform from charles schwab... tdd#:
she was incredibly close to tamerlan, the elder son. and of course distraught by learning and convinced of his death last night. >> thank you very much for the reporting on this. really baffling how someone could take an extreme term and behavior and those closest to him seem completely oblivious to it. another part of the mystery of this situation. again, thanks for that, thick. >>> back here in boston, the big question is, which way the investigation will go? there's still so...
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just remember this, last year tamerlan had a 9/11 party. would you have not had liked had all the license plates and photographs from the people who attended that? >> good point. last word steve emerson. >> look, he was obviously, he should have been on the radar screen. they dropped the ball here. no doubt about it. the russians provided e-mails and phone conversations, summaries of him calling chechnyaian terrorists. why didn't they follow up? that's a question not answered yet. >> mark, thanks for being with us and steve bank you for being back. we appreciate it. we will continue to follow both angles here. coming up, the senior u.s. official is now confirming that boston was merely the first target of these brothers. we are going to tell you what mainly city they planned to hit next when we return. plus meet katheryn russell. she's the 24-year-old woman who was married to one of terrorists. was she involved and did she know her husband was making bombs inside their massachusetts apartment? and ann coulter is here and she will respond an
just remember this, last year tamerlan had a 9/11 party. would you have not had liked had all the license plates and photographs from the people who attended that? >> good point. last word steve emerson. >> look, he was obviously, he should have been on the radar screen. they dropped the ball here. no doubt about it. the russians provided e-mails and phone conversations, summaries of him calling chechnyaian terrorists. why didn't they follow up? that's a question not answered yet....
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jenna: we are learning more pwh-the widow of tamerlan tsarnaev. a school friend said catherine russell had dreams of covering the peace corps but was totally taken with tamerlan. apparently she has been spending time at her parents apts home in rhode island. she is the eldest of three daughters to her parents, a doctor and a nurse. so a lot of questions there, and apparently according to the "new york post" she is being questioned as well by the fbi. jon: let's hope they get to answers. i'm sure she ha has a lot to tell. this man charged with mailing letters laced with deadly poison to president obama and a mississippi senator. the latest on where that case stands next. jenna: deadly floodwaters rising across six states in the midwest. a live report from the fox extreme weather center >> my husband, he went over there to save his friends, and he looked and everything is gone. everything. it's just crazy. we're just homeless now. we lost everything. [ male announcer ] this is george. the day building a play set begins with a surprise twinge of back
jenna: we are learning more pwh-the widow of tamerlan tsarnaev. a school friend said catherine russell had dreams of covering the peace corps but was totally taken with tamerlan. apparently she has been spending time at her parents apts home in rhode island. she is the eldest of three daughters to her parents, a doctor and a nurse. so a lot of questions there, and apparently according to the "new york post" she is being questioned as well by the fbi. jon: let's hope they get to...
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she converted to islam when she met tamerlan, and she is somewhat observe ant. she wears the head scarf normally but he said she was in a bit of a tough spot, because tamerlan wasn't working full-time, he said katie russell was basically working up to seven days a week, sometimes 70 hours a week as a home aide, so tamerlan would stay home and take care of their young toddler daughter while katie russell went out and worked for most of the week. anderson? >> interesting. chris lawrence, i appreciate the reporting. >>> now, toronto, canada where late details of a terrorist plot that authorities in canada say they have foiled. they say it involved an al qaeda supported attack against a passenger train traveling between canada and the united states. paul, this plot has got a lot of interesting elements. it was directed, supported allegedly by al qaeda in iran. have we seen that before? >> not seen that at all before, especially lately since basically al qaeda and iran have had a rift considering the situation in syria. it is very strange to see that here. iran for i
she converted to islam when she met tamerlan, and she is somewhat observe ant. she wears the head scarf normally but he said she was in a bit of a tough spot, because tamerlan wasn't working full-time, he said katie russell was basically working up to seven days a week, sometimes 70 hours a week as a home aide, so tamerlan would stay home and take care of their young toddler daughter while katie russell went out and worked for most of the week. anderson? >> interesting. chris lawrence, i...
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what triggered tamerlan's cad ralization? luis vasquez who befriended him said he last saw tamerlan three years ago. when i asked why his friend drifted to radical islam -- >> the only thing i can think of, i only want to say what i'm sure of, that one of the sources of this could have been some kind of dissatisfaction of the bad, slow transition to coming to another country from a different one, as a teenager. that's never easy. >> vasquez now shares the sentments of those at the mosque, perplexed as to why the man they knew drifted in that direction, and angry he did it. >> lots of unanswered questions. brian todd, thanks very much. >>> one bostonian that was uncomfortably close to tsarnaev's gun fight with the police tells his story to cnn. a bullet went right through his roommate's desk chair. >>> plus, another dramatic cnn interview with the mother of the bombing suspects, who insists they were framed. [ male announcer ] if she keeps serving up sneezes... [ sneezing ] she may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec®.
what triggered tamerlan's cad ralization? luis vasquez who befriended him said he last saw tamerlan three years ago. when i asked why his friend drifted to radical islam -- >> the only thing i can think of, i only want to say what i'm sure of, that one of the sources of this could have been some kind of dissatisfaction of the bad, slow transition to coming to another country from a different one, as a teenager. that's never easy. >> vasquez now shares the sentments of those at the...
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we are still trying to get to the real story on tamerlan tsarnaev's trip to russia last year and his possible ties to terrorism and islamic extremism. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is following that thread tonight. >> the fbi's handling of tamerlan tsarnaev in 2011 and six-month trip to russia the following year now face congressional scrutiny. >> was your department aware of his travels to russia and, if you weren't, the reason? >> yes. the system pinged when he was leaving the united states. by the time he returned all investigations had been -- the matter had been closed. >> napolitano said the lookout system that flags agents federal investigation no longer active when tamerlan returned from russia in july of 2012. >> the system picked up departure but did not pick him coming back, correct? >> the fbi text alert on him at that point was more than a year old and had expired. >> napolitano's pluck contradict briefing given by the fbi director. >> after talking to the fbi they told me they had no knowledge of him leaving or coming back. the name was misspelled.
we are still trying to get to the real story on tamerlan tsarnaev's trip to russia last year and his possible ties to terrorism and islamic extremism. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is following that thread tonight. >> the fbi's handling of tamerlan tsarnaev in 2011 and six-month trip to russia the following year now face congressional scrutiny. >> was your department aware of his travels to russia and, if you weren't, the reason? >> yes. the system pinged...
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we know tamerlan's father lives here. tamerlan came back to see him at some point during last year and during the same time this man was in the jihadi underworld. he's to be asked about that certainly. we know u.s. intelligence even looking in social media to establish any lynx to extremists here in the north caucases and this is clearly one at this particular point. wolf? >> nick, we've heard from a chechen rebel group in the area where you are about the bombing suspect. what do they say? >> reporter: well, this is called caucasus. they vacillate between moderate and extremism. they say they are not part of the bombing at all, this is all part of some broader conspiracy to pin blame on them, on separatists and radicals here. and actually that the russian government may be behind trying to pin that on them. this is sort of a bid by them to get distance from this, not gain any kind of u.s. reprisal at all. this particular group, i think an internet kind of figure head in many ways over the past decade for much of the terro
we know tamerlan's father lives here. tamerlan came back to see him at some point during last year and during the same time this man was in the jihadi underworld. he's to be asked about that certainly. we know u.s. intelligence even looking in social media to establish any lynx to extremists here in the north caucases and this is clearly one at this particular point. wolf? >> nick, we've heard from a chechen rebel group in the area where you are about the bombing suspect. what do they...
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it seemed to me misha had influence on tamerlan. he did have influence and did teach him things that would make tamerlan, you know, go away from the people and go more into the religion. and maybe, maybe that's possible that he suggested to him some radical ideas. but i wouldn't say that -- i mean i didn't witness him making them radicals. or i didn't witness him say things. i just know that tamerlan told me -- because misha was, you know, teaching him that it's not good in islam to do those things. i didn't suspect either him or tamerlan being connected to terror groups or having terrorist ideas. but i know that they had a lot of conversations about just, you know, islam and how islam is being attacked from the outside, you know, from the western countries and how islam is under pressure. but i never heard them speak of doing -- having terrorist attack ideas. >> so that was his former brother-in-law talking to wolf earlier this morning. a lot of questions about this person misha and his possible influence on tamerlan and his possib
it seemed to me misha had influence on tamerlan. he did have influence and did teach him things that would make tamerlan, you know, go away from the people and go more into the religion. and maybe, maybe that's possible that he suggested to him some radical ideas. but i wouldn't say that -- i mean i didn't witness him making them radicals. or i didn't witness him say things. i just know that tamerlan told me -- because misha was, you know, teaching him that it's not good in islam to do those...
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fox news told at the cia's request tamerlan's name, two possible dates of birth and variant of his name were entered into a government database known suspected terrorist. the fbi briefed lawmakers that a misspin of tamerlan's name never knew he left for russia for six months. u.s. intelligence official insists that the database information was entered correctly, shep. >> shepard: new information on the two bombs? >> there is. a new intelligence bulletin review by fox news concludes based on new forensic analysis that the boston bombs most are likely relied on component from remote controlled toy cars for the detonation. the fbi and homeland security bulletin to local state and federal law enforcement reads, in part: each device likely incorporated an electric fusing system using components from remote controlled toy cars such as a transmitter and receiver pair. electric speed controller used as switch mechanism. asked mike mccaul who is regularly briefed on the investigation to explain what catches his attention. >> this transmitter that was used out of a toy car, that is a very sophist
fox news told at the cia's request tamerlan's name, two possible dates of birth and variant of his name were entered into a government database known suspected terrorist. the fbi briefed lawmakers that a misspin of tamerlan's name never knew he left for russia for six months. u.s. intelligence official insists that the database information was entered correctly, shep. >> shepard: new information on the two bombs? >> there is. a new intelligence bulletin review by fox news concludes...
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and about the bureau's handling of the older brother tamerlan tsarnaev. let's go to chief political analyst gloria borger. talk about the pressure, the pressure the fbi is under to explain what the heck happened. >> announcer: lot of pressure. first of all, members of congress want to do their job and know what the fbi knew, when, they want to make sure information wasn't what we call in washington speak siloed, you know, post 9/11 the big issue was that agencies need to be sharing information. they want to make sure that, for example, the fbi, department of homeland security, intelligence were all sharing information. there is another really important question which just sort of came up today. if the fbi investigated this man and decided he was not really a threat, they contact the russians, they try to get more information, they don't get more information, what can they then do that doesn't violate federal guidelines to continue to pursue him? where do they have to cut it off? where does legal and illegal surveillance begin? there are federal guidelines
and about the bureau's handling of the older brother tamerlan tsarnaev. let's go to chief political analyst gloria borger. talk about the pressure, the pressure the fbi is under to explain what the heck happened. >> announcer: lot of pressure. first of all, members of congress want to do their job and know what the fbi knew, when, they want to make sure information wasn't what we call in washington speak siloed, you know, post 9/11 the big issue was that agencies need to be sharing...
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tamerlan and dzhokhar both carried illegal guns. neither had proper permits nor petitions and dzhokhar tsarnaev was under age. within the last hour the white house explained why the surviving suspect will go through the criminal system. >> he will not be treated as an enemy combatant. we will prosecute this terrorist through our civilian system of justice under u.s. law. the united states citizens cannot be tried in military commissions and it is important to remember that since 9/11, we have used the federal court system to convict and incarcerate hundreds of terrorists. >> nbc news justice correspondent pete williams is live with us right now. i know you've been reviewing these charges. what's the latest on what you've uncovered? >> it is a fairly interesting sequence of things that the government cites here as evidence. first of all they say that there was a surveillance tape that shows what apparently is the second suspect, dzhokhar tsarnaev, the man in the hospital, placing the bomb at the second bombing. this is unrelated pict
tamerlan and dzhokhar both carried illegal guns. neither had proper permits nor petitions and dzhokhar tsarnaev was under age. within the last hour the white house explained why the surviving suspect will go through the criminal system. >> he will not be treated as an enemy combatant. we will prosecute this terrorist through our civilian system of justice under u.s. law. the united states citizens cannot be tried in military commissions and it is important to remember that since 9/11, we...
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an exclusive against tamerlan. a source in russia tells nbc news russian intelligence reached out to the fbi last november about the 26-year-old. and crime scene units are back at the bomb site in boston right now. they're placing debris into garbage trucks. crews were seen sifting last night throughout that debris. let's go to pete williams. with a good afternoon to you, pete, let's talk first about the status of the charges in this case and what the likely charges will be. >> yes, i think the odds are pretty good that we'll see these charges in the next couple of hours. they're putting the final touches on them now. and we expect to learn a little more about what the fbi has assembled based on its investigation of the bombing. so perhaps there will be some new details that we'll get. in terms of the charges, i would think at the very least they'll charge him with the bombing, with a terrorism offense for that. and interestingly enough, under the federal statutes, which apply here, use of a weapon of mass destruct
an exclusive against tamerlan. a source in russia tells nbc news russian intelligence reached out to the fbi last november about the 26-year-old. and crime scene units are back at the bomb site in boston right now. they're placing debris into garbage trucks. crews were seen sifting last night throughout that debris. let's go to pete williams. with a good afternoon to you, pete, let's talk first about the status of the charges in this case and what the likely charges will be. >> yes, i...
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found so cause for concern. >> tamerlan got involved in the religion, five years ago. he never told me that he would be like on the side of jihad. he was controlled by fbi like for five -- three, five years. they knew what my son was doing. >> the aspiring boxer was arrested in 2009 for domestic abuse. in years following, he quit school, wed a woman named katherine russell, and became a father. his wife's family releasing this statement. our daughter has lost her husband today, the father of her child. we cannot begin to comprehend how this horrible tragedy occurred. in the aftermath of the patriot's day horror, we know that we never really knew tamerlan tsarnaev. his uncle also in shock. >> he decided to take lives of innocent people, hurt innocent people. i may believe he has been full of evil, maybe he has been himself as evil, he turned to be an evil, even if there's speculation that there was some political views, no, there were no political views. i say there were no political based on what i know about him. and i know about that family. >> reporter: their russia
found so cause for concern. >> tamerlan got involved in the religion, five years ago. he never told me that he would be like on the side of jihad. he was controlled by fbi like for five -- three, five years. they knew what my son was doing. >> the aspiring boxer was arrested in 2009 for domestic abuse. in years following, he quit school, wed a woman named katherine russell, and became a father. his wife's family releasing this statement. our daughter has lost her husband today, the...
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the suspects were identified add the two brothers tamerlan and dzhokhar tsarnaev. arthel neville, fox news. >>> chief, thank you for being with us this weekend. you must be exhausted. >> i am pretty tired, judge. >> let me where that ended. sean collier is caught on the campus at 10:20. when do the gun shots and explosions in watertown start? >> they start approximately 12:25 a.m. >> what is the first thing you hear about? how do you know there are gun shots? >> i like to tell the officer's story. they were on the street and we knew there was the execution of the mit police officer. we knew there was a car jacking and as a result of that vehicle we had gps updates from cambridge telling us where the vehicle was. it was heading ward watertown and that it was actually in watertown. that's when we began to go into watertown to find the vehicle in the east. >> were your officers alone at that time? were you assisted by the fbi and atf state police were joined by the hunt? >> all of the ages agencies wer given the same update we were in boston and cambridge it was our o
the suspects were identified add the two brothers tamerlan and dzhokhar tsarnaev. arthel neville, fox news. >>> chief, thank you for being with us this weekend. you must be exhausted. >> i am pretty tired, judge. >> let me where that ended. sean collier is caught on the campus at 10:20. when do the gun shots and explosions in watertown start? >> they start approximately 12:25 a.m. >> what is the first thing you hear about? how do you know there are gun shots?...
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tamerlan is the one who carjacked the car. his little brother was nearby, we're told by a source in the investigation. so that's how it played out. but, boy, you are right, erin, what a crazy night. and it's taken this long. i think it's really taken this long for the police to figure it all out. >>> well, drew griffin, thanks very mump. we are learning now about where and how the brothers may have gotten some of the explosives that they used in the bombings. this has been another huge question mark out there. >> reporter: erin, cnn is told tonight that tamerlan, at one point, purchased a very large cachet of firearms. >> william says that this purchase took place on february 6th. he stressed at the time, it was not out of the ordinary. he says tamerlan asked the clerk what is the loudest and biggest thing that you have. he paid about $200 in this purchase. and, again, the purchase was two reloadble mortar kits with about 48 reloadble shells. >> thanks to you, brian. >>> one of tamerlan's closest friends, a man named brendan m
tamerlan is the one who carjacked the car. his little brother was nearby, we're told by a source in the investigation. so that's how it played out. but, boy, you are right, erin, what a crazy night. and it's taken this long. i think it's really taken this long for the police to figure it all out. >>> well, drew griffin, thanks very mump. we are learning now about where and how the brothers may have gotten some of the explosives that they used in the bombings. this has been another huge...
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tamerlan tsarnaev was married to an american. the pair had a 3-year-old daughter. she grew up in a middle class family in rhode island. these are exteriors of her home. fbi presence there yesterday. neighbors say she and her daughter have moved back in with her family and that they hadn't seen tamerlan for some time. neighbors say katherine converted to islam for her husband. some reported seeing her walking around the neighborhood with a burka. it was unclear when the two were married. she attended suffolk university from 2007 to 2010. the school confirms that she never graduated, and the family released a statement to the effect of, these actions this week in this news confirms we never really knew him. meantime, we're hearing more stories about the dramatic end to the manhunt for suspect number two, as he was called, the younger brother. we've seen surveillance pictures showing the terror suspect jahar in the family's boat. look at that. we now know the owners immediately called police, when they suspected something -- somebody was in there. when the police arri
tamerlan tsarnaev was married to an american. the pair had a 3-year-old daughter. she grew up in a middle class family in rhode island. these are exteriors of her home. fbi presence there yesterday. neighbors say she and her daughter have moved back in with her family and that they hadn't seen tamerlan for some time. neighbors say katherine converted to islam for her husband. some reported seeing her walking around the neighborhood with a burka. it was unclear when the two were married. she...
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tamerlan taught everything to himself. we were happy about it because he didn't start doing drugs or alcohol. now he doesn't speak to other women he's not related to. they're not important to him. it's a sin to look them in the eye. she saw him for four of the six months he was here and he went to chechnya twice. >> translator: yes, he went to chechnya for a couple of days i don't know where his relatives there lived. they were from his father's side. that village was bombed in the second war though. >> she reveals that she rang the boys to check they were well and they rang her again when they were on the run just the day before tamerlan died. the day before they spoke and it was like always. mommy, everything's fine with us. mommy, we're totally fine. "mommy" that's what they call her. [ speaking foreign language ]. >> translator: we miss your warmth and caress, they said, tamerlan said mommy, i love you and dzhokhar's voice said i love you too, mommy. she watched the boy's father filmed her earlier in the week see them
tamerlan taught everything to himself. we were happy about it because he didn't start doing drugs or alcohol. now he doesn't speak to other women he's not related to. they're not important to him. it's a sin to look them in the eye. she saw him for four of the six months he was here and he went to chechnya twice. >> translator: yes, he went to chechnya for a couple of days i don't know where his relatives there lived. they were from his father's side. that village was bombed in the second...
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tamerlan introduced me to him. it seems to me that misha has influence on tamerlan because when -- for the reasons why tamerlan was boxing said that misha [ inaudible ] told me that boxing is violent. >> do you believe he inspired the older brother to become a radio cal muslim? is that what i hear you saying? >> he surely did have influence and did teach him things that would make tamerlan go away from the people and go more into the religion. may be it is possible he suggested to him some radical ideas. i didn't witness him making him radical or i didn't witness him [ inaudible ] i just know tamerlan told me that he quit boxing and music because misha was teaching him that it's not good in islam to do those things. >> what was victor's -- what was victor's last name? do you know his full name misha? >> i don't know his full name. i only met him twice. tamerlan told me this is misha, my friend. he lives in the u.s. for a while now. that's pretty much it. i heard them speak to each other but i didn't listen to what
tamerlan introduced me to him. it seems to me that misha has influence on tamerlan because when -- for the reasons why tamerlan was boxing said that misha [ inaudible ] told me that boxing is violent. >> do you believe he inspired the older brother to become a radio cal muslim? is that what i hear you saying? >> he surely did have influence and did teach him things that would make tamerlan go away from the people and go more into the religion. may be it is possible he suggested to...
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this is after, of course, tamerlan has been taken down. and then the third picture, that's the one that you showed before, if you can put it back is the car in which they had all their bombs. and this is when the bomb squad sends a robot bomb detector over -- there it is -- to check and inspect the car for explosives. really just remarkable photographs. we would never have images of the gunfire if it weren't for andrew kissenberg. he is seeking people to donate to the one fund in exchange for showing these -- letting us have the license for these pictures. anderson? >> so, jay, what he is saying is he saw the vehicle allegedly driven by dzhokhar literally drive through the road black, basically just smash its way through the police roadblock. and did he also see the vehicle drive over his brother? >> i don't think that -- he didn't tell me that he saw that. he saw the car go through and get away. but at that point he was about half a block away. he couldn't get all the visions in detail. >> okay. >> anderson? >> and drew, you have some inf
this is after, of course, tamerlan has been taken down. and then the third picture, that's the one that you showed before, if you can put it back is the car in which they had all their bombs. and this is when the bomb squad sends a robot bomb detector over -- there it is -- to check and inspect the car for explosives. really just remarkable photographs. we would never have images of the gunfire if it weren't for andrew kissenberg. he is seeking people to donate to the one fund in exchange for...
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and said they were worried about tamerlan's contact with extremist elements. the fbi determined he was not a threat. how little they knew about both brothers. >> crazy how you can know someone and you never know what they are planning. >> 19-year-old dzhozkar tsarnaev, now known as suspect number two, or white hat, came to this country at the age of 7 or 8. he became a u.s. citizen last year on 9/11. he lived in cambridge most of his life. he's a second-year premed student at university of massachusetts. people knew him as sociable and happy go lucky. >> nothing about him would suggest anything like this. politics, religion, nothing. >> as for his older brother, tamerlan, suspect number one, he is a different story. a golden gloves boxer who once aspired to make the u.s. olympics team. family members and fellow boxers say he had become more radical. >> the first year i met him, he had leather pants and boots. the second time, he had a t- shirt and hoody and jeans. he only spoke about his faith. he was big into religion. >> he started praying five times a day.
and said they were worried about tamerlan's contact with extremist elements. the fbi determined he was not a threat. how little they knew about both brothers. >> crazy how you can know someone and you never know what they are planning. >> 19-year-old dzhozkar tsarnaev, now known as suspect number two, or white hat, came to this country at the age of 7 or 8. he became a u.s. citizen last year on 9/11. he lived in cambridge most of his life. he's a second-year premed student at...
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it quotes tamerlan tsarnaev as saying i slapped her. they thought the tension dissipated after parents and sisters moved out. >>> we are also thinking about the victims, of course. one week after the bombing 50 remain in the hospital, two in critical condition. at least a dozen have had amputations. >> one of them is a dance instructor who lost her foot and part of her lower leg. she was watching the marathon when they were hit by the second blast. anderson cooper has their story. >> i hate to ask you to relive what you have gone through. >> i relive it every day. >> you think about it every day? >> absolutely. >> how close were you to the second explosion? >> i was right in front of it, right in front of the business where it was. i felt the direct impact. it immediately blew off my left foot. >> how far away was the bomb? >> my guess it would have been about five feet. >> we are lucky to be alive. >> did you lose consciousness? >> i don't think we did. i remember everything so if we did it was for a matter of seconds. >> do you rememb
it quotes tamerlan tsarnaev as saying i slapped her. they thought the tension dissipated after parents and sisters moved out. >>> we are also thinking about the victims, of course. one week after the bombing 50 remain in the hospital, two in critical condition. at least a dozen have had amputations. >> one of them is a dance instructor who lost her foot and part of her lower leg. she was watching the marathon when they were hit by the second blast. anderson cooper has their...
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"the new york times" reports that after the tib questioned tamerlan tsarnaev in 2011, officials had quote no authority to watch him because they found no terrorism activity at the time. this scenario that an american could and would do this while flying under the radar raises serious questions regarding national security. the "washington post" writes the boston attacks might serve as a new model for terrorism in the 21st century. seeing how two kids with backpack bombs seem to have succeeded in putting a major u.s. city on lockdown, it may now dawn on al qaeda leaders that a series of small-scale attacks like this conversation the same impact as one spectacular mass casualty attack. through a combination of skill and luck, we've done well at preventing the next 9/11. preventing the next boston massacre might not be as easy. joining me today, former dnc communications director and msnbc host, karen finney, "new york times" op-ed columnist frank bruney, retired army sergeant wes moore and "mother jones" msnbc political analyst, david corn and msnbc justice correspondent, pete williams. let'
"the new york times" reports that after the tib questioned tamerlan tsarnaev in 2011, officials had quote no authority to watch him because they found no terrorism activity at the time. this scenario that an american could and would do this while flying under the radar raises serious questions regarding national security. the "washington post" writes the boston attacks might serve as a new model for terrorism in the 21st century. seeing how two kids with backpack bombs seem...
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tamerlan's alleged turn to radical islam. we learned that he bought a large amount of fireworks leading up to the attacks which may help explain the process of perfecting their bombs. again, we're learning more about that. we'll tell you what we know. in addition to all of that, people who live and work on this stretch of boyleston street were still no go today. >>> and in a private ceremony, family members held a funeral mass for 8-year-old martin richard. we laid our son martin to rest, his parents said. and he's now at peace. it has been quite a day, but nothing compared to the night that david henneberry had on friday. that's his backyard. and that is his boat. it's where he discovered the younger suspect and then quickly called police. you may have heard the story of how it happened. that story, the one we've all been hearing, is not quite true. tonight mr. henneberry is telling it like it was speaking to the affiliate wcnbb. >> i know people say there's bloods in the boat, he saw blood when he went in. not -- >> not tru
tamerlan's alleged turn to radical islam. we learned that he bought a large amount of fireworks leading up to the attacks which may help explain the process of perfecting their bombs. again, we're learning more about that. we'll tell you what we know. in addition to all of that, people who live and work on this stretch of boyleston street were still no go today. >>> and in a private ceremony, family members held a funeral mass for 8-year-old martin richard. we laid our son martin to...
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tamerlan is gone now. that concerns me big time. >> reporter: more pieces fit together in a telephone interview wolf blitzer did with the ex-brother-in-law of the two suspects. he said he met misha twice, was introduced to him by tamerlan. he didn't witness misha turning tamerlan into a radical islamist -- >> he surely did have influence and did teach him things that would make tamerlan, you know, go away from the people and go more into the religion. and maybe that is possible that he suggested to him some radical ideas. >> reporter: he said tamerlan tsarnaev told him he'd quit boxing and listening to mainstream music because misha taught him that in islam it's not good to do those things. asked if he suspected that misha was connected to any terrorist groups -- >> i didn't suspect either him or tamerlan being connected to terror groups or having terrorist ideas. but i know that they had a lot of conversations about just, you know, islam and how islam is being attacked from the outside from the western co
tamerlan is gone now. that concerns me big time. >> reporter: more pieces fit together in a telephone interview wolf blitzer did with the ex-brother-in-law of the two suspects. he said he met misha twice, was introduced to him by tamerlan. he didn't witness misha turning tamerlan into a radical islamist -- >> he surely did have influence and did teach him things that would make tamerlan, you know, go away from the people and go more into the religion. and maybe that is possible that...